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	<title>Comments on: لو كان الأمر بيدي (المرور في القاهرة) &#8230;..٢</title>
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	<description>Yet another trial to make a difference!</description>
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		<title>By: Ahmed S. Farghal</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4934</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed S. Farghal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>كمان ليه مانستخدمش النقل النهري؟ يعني ليه اللي عايز يروح من المعادي مثلا لشبرا بالمركب السريع اللي مفيش قدامه عوائق؟

واضح ان فيه امل بجد 

http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2009/february/19/cairo_nile.aspx?ref=rss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>كمان ليه مانستخدمش النقل النهري؟ يعني ليه اللي عايز يروح من المعادي مثلا لشبرا بالمركب السريع اللي مفيش قدامه عوائق؟</p>
<p>واضح ان فيه امل بجد </p>
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		<title>By: Reem</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1598</link>
		<dc:creator>Reem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el fkra 7lwa awy w successful as hya asln mwgooda fy amakn tanya kteer,
ana shoft el buses dy fy el kuwait shaklaha byb2a 7lw awy w btb2a ndeefa gdan w el nas btsta5dmha w f3ln mafeesh mashakl fy el moroor hnak,
ana lw la2eet buses zy dy fy msr haseeb el 3rbya w hrkbha y3ny people&#039;s attitude msh howa el moshkla el nas lw la2t 7aga ndeefa w mawa3dha mzboota w twsl sho3&#039;laha asra3 hatet3wd 3leeha ,
w kman momkn yb2a fy areas mamno3 tmshy feeha bl3rbya zy el amakn el z7ma awy fy msr fa el nas hatb2a forced enha terkn w tnzl terkab el buses,
el moshkla el 7a2ee2ya fy el nas ely hatmsk el mwdoo3 dh 
-el nas el ms2ola 3n el w2t en kol bus ytl3 fy m3ado
-&quot;el saw2een&quot; dol mohmeen awy la2n lw sawa2een el microbuses ely mawgoden now homa ely eshta3&#039;lo fy 7aga zy dy yb2a e7na bnzwd el moshkla msh bn7lha
w kman moshklet el floos although lw sherka 5asa mskto msh hatb2a el flos moshkla awy 
and i don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea en el 7kooma hya ely tb2a mas2ola 
la2n el 7kooma befard en el fkra wasletlaha haynfzooha 3&#039;alat y3ny haygeebo el buses el adeema ely b2alha 100 sna w nfs el swa2een 
w tb2a el msohkla kbrt aktaar 
Thanx :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el fkra 7lwa awy w successful as hya asln mwgooda fy amakn tanya kteer,<br />
ana shoft el buses dy fy el kuwait shaklaha byb2a 7lw awy w btb2a ndeefa gdan w el nas btsta5dmha w f3ln mafeesh mashakl fy el moroor hnak,<br />
ana lw la2eet buses zy dy fy msr haseeb el 3rbya w hrkbha y3ny people&#8217;s attitude msh howa el moshkla el nas lw la2t 7aga ndeefa w mawa3dha mzboota w twsl sho3&#8242;laha asra3 hatet3wd 3leeha ,<br />
w kman momkn yb2a fy areas mamno3 tmshy feeha bl3rbya zy el amakn el z7ma awy fy msr fa el nas hatb2a forced enha terkn w tnzl terkab el buses,<br />
el moshkla el 7a2ee2ya fy el nas ely hatmsk el mwdoo3 dh<br />
-el nas el ms2ola 3n el w2t en kol bus ytl3 fy m3ado<br />
-&#8221;el saw2een&#8221; dol mohmeen awy la2n lw sawa2een el microbuses ely mawgoden now homa ely eshta3&#8242;lo fy 7aga zy dy yb2a e7na bnzwd el moshkla msh bn7lha<br />
w kman moshklet el floos although lw sherka 5asa mskto msh hatb2a el flos moshkla awy<br />
and i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good idea en el 7kooma hya ely tb2a mas2ola<br />
la2n el 7kooma befard en el fkra wasletlaha haynfzooha 3&#8242;alat y3ny haygeebo el buses el adeema ely b2alha 100 sna w nfs el swa2een<br />
w tb2a el msohkla kbrt aktaar<br />
Thanx <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DanDona</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>DanDona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ana Shayfa En el Mawdoo3 Hayeb2a Gamed Geddan Law Wasal El 7al Beta3ak le Ed 7ad beyfham we 3ayez masla7et el Balad ,EL Moshkela Ya A7med En 
&quot;الشباب الذي الموضوعي المتعلم&quot;  Mosh Fe Edo Ay 7aga 7atta law el 7al Mawgod Men Ely Haynafez el Fekra De , Begad I Wish Wallahi eno Would Work Aw Eni A3esh Fe Masr Le &#039;3ayet el Yom Da,
Rabbena Ma3ak Begad..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ana Shayfa En el Mawdoo3 Hayeb2a Gamed Geddan Law Wasal El 7al Beta3ak le Ed 7ad beyfham we 3ayez masla7et el Balad ,EL Moshkela Ya A7med En<br />
&#8220;الشباب الذي الموضوعي المتعلم&#8221;  Mosh Fe Edo Ay 7aga 7atta law el 7al Mawgod Men Ely Haynafez el Fekra De , Begad I Wish Wallahi eno Would Work Aw Eni A3esh Fe Masr Le &#8217;3ayet el Yom Da,<br />
Rabbena Ma3ak Begad..</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed S. Farghal</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed S. Farghal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Abd4lla, Dandona: Please read the previous post and you will understand (hopefully)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abd4lla, Dandona: Please read the previous post and you will understand (hopefully)</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed S. Farghal</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed S. Farghal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your ideas Ashraf and they seem perfectly aligned to what I&#039;m thinking about, so lets summarize that and build a wider article collecting all good ideas, I may be writing a book soon about that  :)

@Dandona: I disagree, because if you are right about something and you got hurt, then the &quot;right&quot; is not the &quot;wrong&quot; but it&#039;s someone&#039;s else &quot;wrong&quot; seemed to him to be &quot;right&quot;, so you ended up to be &quot;wrong&quot; like him :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your ideas Ashraf and they seem perfectly aligned to what I&#8217;m thinking about, so lets summarize that and build a wider article collecting all good ideas, I may be writing a book soon about that  <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Dandona: I disagree, because if you are right about something and you got hurt, then the &#8220;right&#8221; is not the &#8220;wrong&#8221; but it&#8217;s someone&#8217;s else &#8220;wrong&#8221; seemed to him to be &#8220;right&#8221;, so you ended up to be &#8220;wrong&#8221; like him <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ashraf</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashraf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only skimmed through the responses so forgive me if I sound repetitive when 

In big cities here such as Houston, San Fransisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc.. they have a very nice rule that limits the number of cars on the highways (the crucial veins for traffic!). They have what&#039;s called HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes, where there has to be atleast 2 passengers in the car. These lanes are the least busy lanes during rush hours and thus, they encourage people to carpool (i.e share the ride rather than drive individually) so they could get to their destinations faster.

Elmoshkela fmasr is that theres TOO MANY cars! I guess limiting the number of new cars will help alot with reducing traffic jams, but obviously that not even half of the solution.

Another important point is to  have stricter laws. Now i know this sounds quite redundant, however this is the keystone to anything else that follows! People need to stop parking in no-parking areas. They need to abide with lane borders, speed limits, and most importantly traffic lights (which also needs to be worked on once traffic laws are actually enforced) because step by step, traffic will (inshaAllah!) regulate itself. Along with such improvements should be a traffic control districts to monitor traffic flow and to help clear the way for emergency vehicles.

Last, but indeed not least, is the metropolian transit system. When I was in Egypt, I was too young to drive so I regularly took otobees 939 (from madinet nasr lel masr el gedeeda), and I would take the CTF (the air-conditioned bus when available, which is almost never. I&#039;m pretty sure many of you might disagree, but I think a possible solution for public transportation fmasr is to privatize it. A private company will likely be alittle more expensive than what the government charges people, however it&#039;ll put more effort towards effeciency and sticking to a schedule because they want to survive as a company, and if they fail to properly replace the government&#039;s buses then they will fail and be replaced by another company by the government. 

In the states, the tax system is very different from Egypt, thus the government spending and monetary system cannot be compared side to side. I would love to go further on this topic but it&#039;s beyond the scope of this discussion, so I&#039;m gonna keep it to that. For now, i&#039;ll jts say that this is one of Egypt&#039;s weakest points (and it&#039;s the primary factor for a low budgeted government)....

Keep up the flow of good ideas! MashaAllah we have a fine collection of brilliant minds :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only skimmed through the responses so forgive me if I sound repetitive when </p>
<p>In big cities here such as Houston, San Fransisco, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc.. they have a very nice rule that limits the number of cars on the highways (the crucial veins for traffic!). They have what&#8217;s called HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes, where there has to be atleast 2 passengers in the car. These lanes are the least busy lanes during rush hours and thus, they encourage people to carpool (i.e share the ride rather than drive individually) so they could get to their destinations faster.</p>
<p>Elmoshkela fmasr is that theres TOO MANY cars! I guess limiting the number of new cars will help alot with reducing traffic jams, but obviously that not even half of the solution.</p>
<p>Another important point is to  have stricter laws. Now i know this sounds quite redundant, however this is the keystone to anything else that follows! People need to stop parking in no-parking areas. They need to abide with lane borders, speed limits, and most importantly traffic lights (which also needs to be worked on once traffic laws are actually enforced) because step by step, traffic will (inshaAllah!) regulate itself. Along with such improvements should be a traffic control districts to monitor traffic flow and to help clear the way for emergency vehicles.</p>
<p>Last, but indeed not least, is the metropolian transit system. When I was in Egypt, I was too young to drive so I regularly took otobees 939 (from madinet nasr lel masr el gedeeda), and I would take the CTF (the air-conditioned bus when available, which is almost never. I&#8217;m pretty sure many of you might disagree, but I think a possible solution for public transportation fmasr is to privatize it. A private company will likely be alittle more expensive than what the government charges people, however it&#8217;ll put more effort towards effeciency and sticking to a schedule because they want to survive as a company, and if they fail to properly replace the government&#8217;s buses then they will fail and be replaced by another company by the government. </p>
<p>In the states, the tax system is very different from Egypt, thus the government spending and monetary system cannot be compared side to side. I would love to go further on this topic but it&#8217;s beyond the scope of this discussion, so I&#8217;m gonna keep it to that. For now, i&#8217;ll jts say that this is one of Egypt&#8217;s weakest points (and it&#8217;s the primary factor for a low budgeted government)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Keep up the flow of good ideas! MashaAllah we have a fine collection of brilliant minds <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DanDona</title>
		<link>http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/16/moroor1-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>DanDona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Disagree wiz Nano about staying in Your Own Lane , 3arfa leah , coz i&#039;ve driving since forever and i couldn&#039;t mesh 3ashn ana ba7eb a&#039;7od 3oraz wallahi ,bas last time i did kont 3ala el mala2an we medeya eshra yemen welly 3ala shemaly kasar 3alayaa we da3 el kaboot wel fanos we my door 3ashan 3ayez yed5ol yemen 2abli we kan Scene :D fa i learned enny mesh amshy fe my lane &#039;7ales :D we asebha le el nas elly 3ayzaha lazem mesa3i ba3d , i appreciate all the time and the effort you are trying 2 do ya a7med 2 solve the problem bas i have to agree with ahmed eno meen elly hatbanna ektera7aak we yenafezo fe3lna :D wish begad en el kalam da yetaba2 :D @ least mesh hattar aroo7 el banzeena kol yom :D we a2olo 20 92 :D..
we @ bingo eah mawdoo3 el zalat da :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Disagree wiz Nano about staying in Your Own Lane , 3arfa leah , coz i&#8217;ve driving since forever and i couldn&#8217;t mesh 3ashn ana ba7eb a&#8217;7od 3oraz wallahi ,bas last time i did kont 3ala el mala2an we medeya eshra yemen welly 3ala shemaly kasar 3alayaa we da3 el kaboot wel fanos we my door 3ashan 3ayez yed5ol yemen 2abli we kan Scene <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  fa i learned enny mesh amshy fe my lane &#8217;7ales <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  we asebha le el nas elly 3ayzaha lazem mesa3i ba3d , i appreciate all the time and the effort you are trying 2 do ya a7med 2 solve the problem bas i have to agree with ahmed eno meen elly hatbanna ektera7aak we yenafezo fe3lna <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  wish begad en el kalam da yetaba2 <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  @ least mesh hattar aroo7 el banzeena kol yom <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  we a2olo 20 92 <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> ..<br />
we @ bingo eah mawdoo3 el zalat da <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bingorabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>bingorabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sinar: exactly, &quot;3asforen b zalata wa7da&quot; :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sinar: exactly, &#8220;3asforen b zalata wa7da&#8221; <img src='http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed S. Farghal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed S. Farghal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ahmed Abdalla: Yes, I intend to do most of what you said, but this is not my main point. I explained that earlier here http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/10/suggest1/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ahmed Abdalla: Yes, I intend to do most of what you said, but this is not my main point. I explained that earlier here <a href="http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/10/suggest1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2008/11/10/suggest1/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Osama Gamal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osama Gamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>طيب احب اضيف ان في كمية كبيرة من السيارات بتيجي كل يوم  من خارج القاهرة
اعتقد لو اجبرنا كل الناس دي تركن سيارتها في مواقف خارج القاهرة بشكل منظم و بعد كده يركب احد وسائل المواصلات العامة اللي انت اقترحتها هتقلل الزحمة بشكل تراجيدي
و طبعا مواقف السيارات دي هتكون بفلوس رمزية
الكلام ده بيتطبق في مكة في الايام الزحمة بس المواقف اللي برة مكة دي مجانية

طبعا ممكن نسمح بدخول السيارات اللي عايزة تدخل بس هندفعه مبلغ محترم عشان يدخل و بالتالي فأوفر له انه يركن السيارة و يركب مواصلات عامه
كمان هيضمن انه هيوصل بسرعة خصوصا الناس اللي بتيجي القاهرة يوم واحد عشان تقضي مصلحة و تمشي في نفس اليوم</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>طيب احب اضيف ان في كمية كبيرة من السيارات بتيجي كل يوم  من خارج القاهرة<br />
اعتقد لو اجبرنا كل الناس دي تركن سيارتها في مواقف خارج القاهرة بشكل منظم و بعد كده يركب احد وسائل المواصلات العامة اللي انت اقترحتها هتقلل الزحمة بشكل تراجيدي<br />
و طبعا مواقف السيارات دي هتكون بفلوس رمزية<br />
الكلام ده بيتطبق في مكة في الايام الزحمة بس المواقف اللي برة مكة دي مجانية</p>
<p>طبعا ممكن نسمح بدخول السيارات اللي عايزة تدخل بس هندفعه مبلغ محترم عشان يدخل و بالتالي فأوفر له انه يركن السيارة و يركب مواصلات عامه<br />
كمان هيضمن انه هيوصل بسرعة خصوصا الناس اللي بتيجي القاهرة يوم واحد عشان تقضي مصلحة و تمشي في نفس اليوم</p>
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