Comments on: Python or Java http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/ {yet another technology geek!} Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mahmoud Tantawy http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-9068 Mahmoud Tantawy Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:54:42 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-9068 nice share and great comparison really.. thanx 4 yr time writing this :) nice share and great comparison really..
thanx 4 yr time writing this :)

]]> By: Hend Awad http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7970 Hend Awad Wed, 13 May 2009 12:07:44 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7970 Nice article Ahmed :) Regarding the comparison, I did not see it like who is better than who, I believe that different programming languages are just like different persons, each has it's own personality, Strengths, and Weaknesses , So, knowing the strengths areas of each language gives us the Maximum benefit of each of them ... Thanks :) Nice article Ahmed :)
Regarding the comparison,
I did not see it like who is better than who, I believe that different programming languages are just like different persons, each has it’s own personality, Strengths, and Weaknesses ,
So, knowing the strengths areas of each language gives us the Maximum benefit of each of them …

Thanks :)

]]> By: Ahmed S. Farghal http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7966 Ahmed S. Farghal Wed, 13 May 2009 08:01:03 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7966 well, seems like I need to re-declare that Groovy isn't the topic of that article. about the GUI thing, I don't understand your point here? I didn't say that Java is tied to Swing, you still can use SWT that uses the native implementations as possible and is very fast indeed. (btw, SWT is platform independent as well, and also Qt and GTK runs on almost all platforms including Unix/Linux/Windows/Mac) Anyway, I'm not a GUI programmer anyhow and by putting Groovy/Ruby/etc. out of the comparison, python is more robust and allows you to write less to do more so it really helps you to focus only on the business logic. well, seems like I need to re-declare that Groovy isn’t the topic of that article. about the GUI thing, I don’t understand your point here? I didn’t say that Java is tied to Swing, you still can use SWT that uses the native implementations as possible and is very fast indeed. (btw, SWT is platform independent as well, and also Qt and GTK runs on almost all platforms including Unix/Linux/Windows/Mac)

Anyway, I’m not a GUI programmer anyhow and by putting Groovy/Ruby/etc. out of the comparison, python is more robust and allows you to write less to do more so it really helps you to focus only on the business logic.

]]> By: Dino Kasem http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7965 Dino Kasem Wed, 13 May 2009 07:11:40 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7965 Actually .. I don't know .. wheather Groovy is more of python or ruby !? .. I know neither !! but ... I know that Groovy and Python .. both are using very compact syntax ... comparing them at this point .. put them in equality ... But, the asuumption of python being more mature than groovy !! is not True !!!... Yes groovy is a newer language but uses all the old nice mature features of java !!! makes it as powerful as java which is way mature than python !!! ... ( Add Grails framework to the talk !! ;-) ) Moreover, for Swing and PyQt or PyGtk Libs !!! Its totally up to you to make your application Platfrom DEPENDANT !! ... But, you can consider using a gui platform that makes life easier .. like netbeans platform or eclipse's ( which I dunno any about !! ) .. to speed up your GUI dev time, making your application pluggable and componentised .. and allows u to put more focus on your business code !!! I don't think there is a platform like those .. in python ( I really didn't hear of one .. if u know just tell !!! ) !!!!! I Don't think [ You do choose a language because of its easy syntax only !!!! right ? ] Actually .. I don’t know .. wheather Groovy is more of python or ruby !? .. I know neither !! but … I know that Groovy and Python .. both are using very compact syntax … comparing them at this point .. put them in equality …

But, the asuumption of python being more mature than groovy !! is not True !!!… Yes groovy is a newer language but uses all the old nice mature features of java !!! makes it as powerful as java which is way mature than python !!! … ( Add Grails framework to the talk !! ;-) )

Moreover, for Swing and PyQt or PyGtk Libs !!! Its totally up to you to make your application Platfrom DEPENDANT !! … But, you can consider using a gui platform that makes life easier .. like netbeans platform or eclipse’s ( which I dunno any about !! ) .. to speed up your GUI dev time, making your application pluggable and componentised .. and allows u to put more focus on your business code !!! I don’t think there is a platform like those .. in python ( I really didn’t hear of one .. if u know just tell !!! ) !!!!!

I Don’t think [ You do choose a language because of its easy syntax only !!!! right ? ]

]]> By: Ahmed S. Farghal http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7962 Ahmed S. Farghal Wed, 13 May 2009 06:54:48 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7962 @alex: Swing is too slow on most platforms, look at netbeans and compare it to SWT like eclipse @Dino: Python is generally more mature than groovy and groovy is actually more ruby than python and I don't like ruby :) but maybe later I'll put them both under heavy tests and see.... @alex: Swing is too slow on most platforms, look at netbeans and compare it to SWT like eclipse

@Dino: Python is generally more mature than groovy and groovy is actually more ruby than python and I don’t like ruby :)

but maybe later I’ll put them both under heavy tests and see….

]]> By: Dino Kasem http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7961 Dino Kasem Wed, 13 May 2009 05:41:32 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7961 @GORLOK : I guess you are using your mind !!! .. Sorry ( For everyone else !!! ) ... Guys .. you need to read more about new technologies !!!!! ... Groovy is JAVA .. yet it is loosly typed !! means .. it compines the power of ( Python, Ruby ) syntax and the power of java portability, huge API ,, and performance !!!!! ... Groovy is a syntax ( scripted and/or compiled ) - ( structured and/or ObjectOriented ) I guess you need to read more about groovy ... @GORLOK : I guess you are using your mind !!! .. Sorry ( For everyone else !!! ) …

Guys .. you need to read more about new technologies !!!!! … Groovy is JAVA .. yet it is loosly typed !! means .. it compines the power of ( Python, Ruby ) syntax and the power of java portability, huge API ,, and performance !!!!! …

Groovy is a syntax ( scripted and/or compiled ) – ( structured and/or ObjectOriented )

I guess you need to read more about groovy …

]]> By: alex http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7947 alex Tue, 12 May 2009 20:58:31 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7947 I'm not sure why you say that Java is bad at GUI. Swing is awesome to my liking. Python is great on Google App Engine. I’m not sure why you say that Java is bad at GUI. Swing is awesome to my liking. Python is great on Google App Engine.

]]> By: gorlok http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7942 gorlok Tue, 12 May 2009 16:41:14 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7942 Why not Groovy? ;) Why not Groovy? ;)

]]> By: Sinar http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7936 Sinar Tue, 12 May 2009 14:34:52 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7936 I love the comparison, I believe it's very useful for the beginners, Python is awesome, it's a tongue language I didn't use it so much yet, but it amazes me each and every time I do so, how simple and easy it's, which on the other hand makes it reasonable that it's not for large or highly scalable systems and projects. My knowledge about Java isn't so strong, but i always have this feeling that it's a real powerful language. thanks for the nice conclusion :) I love the comparison, I believe it’s very useful for the beginners, Python is awesome, it’s a tongue language I didn’t use it so much yet, but it amazes me each and every time I do so, how simple and easy it’s, which on the other hand makes it reasonable that it’s not for large or highly scalable systems and projects.

My knowledge about Java isn’t so strong, but i always have this feeling that it’s a real powerful language.

thanks for the nice conclusion :)

]]> By: Ahmed S. Farghal http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/2009/05/10/python-or-java/comment-page-1/#comment-7934 Ahmed S. Farghal Tue, 12 May 2009 13:43:50 +0000 http://www.ahmedsoliman.com/?p=326#comment-7934 well, it's a win-win ya mohamed, I mean those comparisons are very important to help and assist newbies to choose the right language for the right purpose, every language is good in some area and provide features that the others can't so you need to quickly decided which language to be used on which projects. and yes, I'm really fond of doing things on top of each other specially if the core is C/C++ or Java and the upper layers are in anything that is quick and easy like python. so, you should stop hating this :) because it's not who is better that who, but it's who is good in what. well, it’s a win-win ya mohamed, I mean those comparisons are very important to help and assist newbies to choose the right language for the right purpose, every language is good in some area and provide features that the others can’t so you need to quickly decided which language to be used on which projects.

and yes, I’m really fond of doing things on top of each other specially if the core is C/C++ or Java and the upper layers are in anything that is quick and easy like python.

so, you should stop hating this :) because it’s not who is better that who, but it’s who is good in what.

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